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minircupracer
Starting Member
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 Posted - 08/08/2009 : 09:56:21
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| Yep all of the cars passed tech this year there weight and ride height were ok |
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Jimet_99
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 11:30:26
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Not only weight and ride height, I remember quite well my motor coming apart and passing, as well as my carb coming off twice and passing. Thanks again to Hole In One Motorsports for a fast and legal motor. The dyno services have been invaluable.
-Jim #60 |
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racingjmj
Starting Member
10 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2009 : 14:58:15
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| Forget the Invert system go to a passing point system like USAC has, they have gotton rid of sand bagging all together. Each starting position gets points the lower your position the more points you can earn by finishing in a higher position but if you dont move up you dont get extra points you also may loose points from finishing behind your starting position. |
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MiniCupMike
Junior Member
123 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 08:36:03
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AS THE CSR TURNS
Since CSR doesnt encourage close racing, everyone wash and wax your car, bring it to the track and the tech offical can draw numbers to see who wins the race each night. ITS ALMOST THERE!!!
WWW.IWONDERWHYTHECARCOUNTSAREDOWN.COM
www.minicupmafia.com
Team Extreme
www.teamgbody.com
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
81 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 09:21:27
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This is for suggestions not sarcastic comments, if you don't have any positive suggestions, keep you comments to yourself
And nice to hear from you Mike, haven't seen you all year. |
Edited by - davidkast on 08/19/2009 12:27:32 |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 09:39:52
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I understand what youre trying to get at, I believe to help more side by side and more passing we need:
1. Change the invert rule back to an unknown # (dice or pills)
2. Move winners to the back
3. Double file restarts
4. Single engine builder
5. Stricter tech
But to CSR's defense, watch these two CSR videos and tell me how many cars I passed (AT ROCKFORD!!!) to win?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rdK3d4VDM
(started 8th)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1coqpwlDQ_A
(started 7th, and how close was the finish?)
Only 3 cars were taken out in incidents, I passed the other 10.
I understand what youre saying and I can tell you some other things offline.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
81 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 10:31:24
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| The reason for not having just one engine builder is to keep the engine builders honest. If you only have one engine builder then that engine build might not like that person for what ever reason and then you will have a person or persons not getting the max out of their engine or not getting their engine back in time to race some times. So with more then one engine builder it keeps the builders fair and honest because they don't want their reputation ruined. If you want to go with just one engine builder then I would suggest everyone just put their engines in a pile before each race and and then race with the engine the race director picks out for you, if you really want it to be honest. |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 10:38:37
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I thought this thread was for suggestions?
Anytime someone has one, you shoot it down. Let it go, let it go and let drivers make suggestions, as it was intended.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 08/19/2009 : 10:40:28
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| I did suggest, put all the motors in a pile and then you won't know which one you get. Now I thought that was a suggestion. |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 15:47:52
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well you had a negative response to my first idea about a saturday where we all seal our engines together, no matter who built them.
You had a negative response to my idea about double file restarts
You had a negative response to my idea about changing the invert rule
and then again a negative response to my idea about one engine builder.
They only look slightly less negative because you keep editing what you wrote earlier.
Theyre suggestions, as the forum asks for, realistic suggestions mind you. Thats all Im listing, ideas to make CSR even better next year, but you play defensive to EVERYTHING, let it go Dave. But I know you won't, so please, whats your next comment going to be? or can we get back to making suggestions?
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
81 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 16:08:43
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1 I did not have a negative response to the double file restarts I just questioned it and then if you would read I did apologize to you. I don't have a problem with it at all I too think that is a very good suggestion
2 I don't any problem about the invert rule at all in fact I think what you have suggested was great with not letting any know what it will be.
3 Yes I do think one engine builder is a bad idea, and that is my suggestion.
4 Sealing all the engines in one place is great I don't have any problems with that and that would make it easier for recording serial numbers and seal numbers at the same time.
And yes Erik, you do have some good suggestion and it seems if I want to debate some of them you get defensive about it, especially about the one engine builder. I am not going to let anything go like you, it is my right to make suggestion too and I too want to make CSR better. |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 08/19/2009 : 16:28:32
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Show me where on this thread I get defensive about engine builders.
Show me where Ive criticzed other driver's suggestions on this thread.
Only one person here getting defensive, while the others, like myself, are trying to make suggestions.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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Jimet_99
Administrator
USA
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 Posted - 08/19/2009 : 16:36:33
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I think we should pursue quite a few of Lawman9's ideas, I like the idea of a Saturday motor seal this way each motor can be built, serviced, tuned by the owners choice of builders and confirmed to meet CSR's requirements, tagged and logged or whatever. I like the double file restarts idea as well, do the tracks have a say in restart formation?
I don't like the winner to the back of the next race, only because we don't race at only one track, if you win at say the Dell's, and the following week you are at Rockford, but if you were to start at the back of the same track the next time maybe? Maybe it's a good idea to add a little more challenge, not sure on that idea. I totally agree with the invert rule, and this from someone who consistently rolls 12's...lol. I think the series should put the tech issue as top priority for next year as well, this year is almost done, we had an open meeting to voice how to wrap up the year and we can only look forward at his point. Thanks to Lawman9 for taking the time out of his schedule to upload video's to youtube for us to enjoy!
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supercup18
Forum Admin
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Posted - 08/19/2009 : 17:03:57
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Ok kids time to calm down. Many of the ideas brought up on this forum have been good things to talk about in the off season. As a series gains or losses drivers and car counts change rules need to be altered to make for a better show. Lets all remember that is why we are out there....(To put on a show!).
I see a thread from Mike got this fired up but yet I can not think of what may have happened to give him these ideas. Car counts are affected by many things including the economy. Cars will come and go but the biggest thing that hurts the series are cars staying in the garage instead of being on the track. Encouraging wrecking is different from encouraging close racing. Racing is not fun unless it is close but you do have to draw the line somewhere if you have someone that is continuously damaging other people’s property on the race track.
I am not sure where you were going with your statement Mike but try attending a race and maybe some will listen including myself. You have not raced since September of 07 and both of the years you raced prior it was never more then 30% of the season. Put your car on the track, make the effort like the rest of the drivers and then complain.
Other then that some of Erik’s ideas I like and some I think can work if we apply stipulations on car counts. The half the field rule was developed with larger fields. Smaller fields need different rules and we should plan ahead when revising the rules to adjust to these changes in the future.
So thanks for all your input in the forum and keep it coming. When this season is at a close the board will once again meet to discuss the rule book and keep striving to find better ways to improve it. Elections for new board members will be taking place immediately following the conclusion of the season to allow ample time for the new board to revise the rule book, schedule races and prepare for the 2010 season. If you are interested in running for a position on the board for the next season please put a post on the forum or let me know.
See every one at Rockford! (MAYBE EVEN MINICUP MIKE!!!!!)
Jeff Myers
Supercupracing.com
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2009 : 08:04:39
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How about until car counts increase again, we combine the Junior and Adult divisions?
I think this would help the tracks put on a better show and give us more laps in heats and features. In order to get good saturday night races, we have to put on a good show for the tracks and when they have to run 2 seperate races for a 10 car and 5 car field, i get the feeling the tracks would be happier with one show. Again i think we can get 5-10 more laps in features at each track. I may open a different thread soon to get peoples opinions on this idea.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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