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Lawman9
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 Posted - 08/14/2008 : 17:51:37
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For Clarification, this is the new Engine Protest Rule that drivers wanted and voted on at the drivers meeting on 6/14 and the CSR board also then voted on. The only real difference between this and the old one is the protest $.
ENGINE PROTEST GUIDELINES:
- Protestor must have finished on the lead lap of the feature.
- All sealed and unsealed engines are subject to protest.
- All protest are to be turned in to a CSR tech official no later than
fifteen minutes after the completion of the feature race.
- The protest fee of $350.00 must be paid at time of protest.
- Fee must be paid in cash, certified check, or money order. No personal checks.
- All tear down work must be done in the presence of a CSR tech
official.
- Once engine tear down is complete, it is up to the CSR tech official
to determine if any part of the engine is illegal.
- If engine is found legal:
- Driver / car owner will be awarded the protest fee minus $50.00 that
will go to the tech official.
- Driver will receive all points and monies earned for that race event.
- If engine is found illegal:
- The protestor will receive a protest fee refund minus $50.00 that
will go to the tech official.
- Illegal driver will be disqualified, and forfeit all points and
monies earned for that race event.
- Any and all illegal parts or engines are subject to confiscation by
CSR tech officials.
- Any driver / car owner who refuses protest is assumed illegal and
will be disqualified forfeiting all points and monies earned for that
event.
Just remember that the Tech Official can pull any motor at anytime if they so choose, even if no protest is made. However, it is unlikely that will happen as long as you have all your seals intact. Any questions, please let me, a board member, or a tech official know.
"Getting airborne wasn't that bad; it's landing that causes all the problems."
Vitor Meira - IRL Driver
-- www.LawmenRacing.com --
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dgoplen
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/15/2008 : 12:23:54
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how does that affectthe sealed motor then? does it have to be resealed before racing next time? tks scott quote:
Originally posted by Lawman9
For Clarification, this is the new Engine Protest Rule that drivers wanted and voted on at the drivers meeting on 6/14 and the CSR board also then voted on. The only real difference between this and the old one is the protest $.
ENGINE PROTEST GUIDELINES:
- Protestor must have finished on the lead lap of the feature.
- All sealed and unsealed engines are subject to protest.
- All protest are to be turned in to a CSR tech official no later than
fifteen minutes after the completion of the feature race.
- The protest fee of $350.00 must be paid at time of protest.
- Fee must be paid in cash, certified check, or money order. No personal checks.
- All tear down work must be done in the presence of a CSR tech
official.
- Once engine tear down is complete, it is up to the CSR tech official
to determine if any part of the engine is illegal.
- If engine is found legal:
- Driver / car owner will be awarded the protest fee minus $50.00 that
will go to the tech official.
- Driver will receive all points and monies earned for that race event.
- If engine is found illegal:
- The protestor will receive a protest fee refund minus $50.00 that
will go to the tech official.
- Illegal driver will be disqualified, and forfeit all points and
monies earned for that race event.
- Any and all illegal parts or engines are subject to confiscation by
CSR tech officials.
- Any driver / car owner who refuses protest is assumed illegal and
will be disqualified forfeiting all points and monies earned for that
event.
Just remember that the Tech Official can pull any motor at anytime if they so choose, even if no protest is made. However, it is unlikely that will happen as long as you have all your seals intact. Any questions, please let me, a board member, or a tech official know.
"Getting airborne wasn't that bad; it's landing that causes all the problems."
Vitor Meira - IRL Driver
-- www.LawmenRacing.com --
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Lawman9
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 08/15/2008 : 23:25:59
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We dont require a sealed motor, but if you run an unsealed motor, it GREATLY increases your chances of having your motor pulled every week by either another competitor or the Tech Director. In effect, I HIGHLY suggest running a sealed motor.
So if your motor does get pulled one week, again I highly stress getting it sealed by one of the engine builders (I use Ken Jones/Ultimate Motorsports) for the next race.
hope that helps
"Getting airborne wasn't that bad; it's landing that causes all the problems."
Vitor Meira - IRL Driver
-- www.LawmenRacing.com -- |
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supercup18
Forum Admin
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Posted - 08/16/2008 : 05:12:15
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To cover this topic a little more in depth I want to make a few points and also mention some things I discussed with our tech inspector.
Motors whether sealed or not are pulled in all other forms of racing from karting to Late Models. Drivers on a regular basis get their parts back in a basket and must reassemble them for the following race. The nice thing about a Super Cup engine is that it is simple. Contrary to what some people or builders may tell you there is nothing special to reassembling an engine. Once all the specs are met (Cam, crank and head deck) it is just a matter of 15 bolts. At our end of the season meeting myself and Ken will be conducting an engine tear down and reassembly class to show how easy it truly is to put these engines together.
In addition for those worried about sending their engines out of state for resealing, we will be working on coordinating with a couple engine machine shops in both IN. and WI. That will be allowed to seal the engines. This will offer more local opportunities for everyone. With the new engine tear down rule this will allow sufficient funds for both the resealing and the gas to travel to and from the shop. We will try to find shops with in 75 to 100 miles from most of our drivers’ locations.
Some of you might say "Well, you are a mechanic so this is easy for you!" We will show everyone how simple it is.
Thanks
Jeff Myers
Supercupracing.com
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dgoplen
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/21/2008 : 15:43:37
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our karting club went to no sealed motors this year instead of the sealed motors we had in the past,it didnt really change the competition at all but they did find 4-5 motors that were illegal and were built by one of the area engine builders ,his engines were usually up front, until half way through the season they had a big race and found out why thos engines were up front.in the past you could not have contested his motors because he sealed them.
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supercup18
Forum Admin
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Posted - 08/22/2008 : 06:21:40
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I understand that thinking but in my opinion that turns every race into a tear down session. The authorized sealers wll have their credibility on the line and one mistake could cost them future relations with CSR and future business as well. Super Cups are usually very close and it is pretty easy to tell if something has been spruced up a bit. Even easier now that we run with transponders. Lap times out of the ordinary will throw up a red flag. The director of comeptition or race director do have the ability to inspect a car if something seems suspicious as well.
Thanks for the input.
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