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supercup18
Forum Admin
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 Posted - 03/13/2009 : 05:43:33
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This post will be our continuously updated list for ideas to work on for the 2010 season. As we go through each season new ideas and concerns arise so post your ideas below and they will be added to the list. This will give us a constant view of either good or bad ideas.
2010 Suggestion List:
1. Have all engines sealed by only CSR officials.
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racingjmj
Starting Member
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Posted - 04/16/2009 : 13:18:03
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How About we have an arive and drive day for people that would like to try to drive on a track we could charge some fee and split it with the track for renting the track and possibly get some new drivers for us and or the track. ( 5 laps for $25 ) for kids they should have some prof that they have some experience I.E. karting,
quarter midgets or even a drivers liscence |
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racingjmj
Starting Member
10 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2009 : 13:20:33
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| (License) my bad! |
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m3racing
Starting Member
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Posted - 05/10/2009 : 21:50:03
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With rain out yesterday, I had time to think about the qualifying points. If you are going to award qualifying points, then I think there should be a full field inversion. Otherwise, by inverting half the field, say there are 8 cars, that means a 4 car inversion, I qualify 5th fastest. Now, I am staring half way back - behind one of the fastest cars, AND I am already 3 points down to this person. A full field inversion (minus newbies!) would be closer to what most short track series are doing.
What I think is a better idea is to keep track of the points (but do not award them as part of the series points!) and then, at the last race, take everyone who has any qualifying points, put them into a 6 or 8 lap fast dash WITH NO INVERSION and a cash prize of, say, $150! Do this in lieu of qualifying that night. Fans get to see thefastest cars over the course of the season and the fast qualifiers get a shot at a cash award and the fastest qualifier gets the reward of the best starting position!
Just a thought. |
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supercup18
Forum Admin
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Posted - 05/13/2009 : 11:21:25
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We have bounced several scenerios around. With the smaller size of the junior division half field invert may not be sufficient with qualifying points. I have been developing a system to rate the drivers on seat time and ability. Until the junior division is larger the invert may go all the way back to the rookie or lets call it "C" or "B" class drivers. Essentially the series will make the decision based on experience and ability.
Thanks for the input Mike. I was already working on this situation.
Jeff Myers
Supercupracing.com
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2009 : 14:06:06
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For 2010, Id like to see the 1st and 2nd place feature cars go to the back of the invert for the following race week.
also, as mentioned before, it would be great to run one engine seal, and to do it on a Saturday before the season starts, in a large group, so everyone can look at each others engines b4 the seals go on.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 05/22/2009 : 20:27:36
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| For 2010 Maybe it would be good to run one engine seal and it would be a CSR Seal Only.. Then this way you could have any engine builder you wanted as long as it passed CSR specs, and in order to for this to be fair have 2 or more Techs sealing the engines not just one. Then after being Sealed mark the engine blocks with CSR serial numbers and Seal numbers then if the engine are changed it would be easier to spot it. |
Edited by - davidkast on 05/22/2009 21:38:14 |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2009 : 23:10:14
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Double File Restarts!
Just like NASCAR's new rule, the leader can pick inside or outside, 2nd place takes the other spot, then everyone else lines up inside then outside.
We're supposed to put on a good show, so I think this will help get rid of follow the leader racing on restarts. If possible, I think it would be great to start this idea this year!
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 08:59:57
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Just like NASCAR NEW RULE, the leader starts on the inside, I didn't see them or any other series give them a choice unless I am mistaken.
This is a 2010 Suggestion List: |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 09:33:35
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Nope, the leader gets to choose inside or outside. On the final restart yesterday, Tony Stewart, as the leader, selected the outside lane.
I think that would work great for CSR.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 09:52:07
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| Didn't know that, did not get a chance to watch the race, but I will check it out. Like I said I could be mistaken and I guess I was. |
Edited by - davidkast on 06/08/2009 09:53:55 |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 08/04/2009 : 21:29:42
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Get rid of the known invert # (1/2 field, full field, etc). We should decide the invert # after qualifying so it removes any suspicion of sandbagging qualifying. Then I'd remove the qual points, or lower the value. Its hard to make sense of drop races, missing races, etc when some races have no qual and others do, so one driver might sweep one night and score 55 points because theres no quals, while another driver sweeps at 58 with quals.
Just some ideas to look at.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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PuddyKat
Starting Member
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Posted - 08/06/2009 : 08:06:19
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
81 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2009 : 07:51:11
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| Just like the "Walgreen's Commercial", "In a Perfect World", if we didn't have cheaters and sand baggers then we wouldn't have to worry about most of these rules, but this world isn't perfect. So for all those that think they have to cheat to win, that is why all the rules. Then you have those that try to change the rules to benefit them. Again this is not a Perfect World, it sure would be nice if it was. So my suggestion is let's just all try and go out to have fun and don't Cheat or Sand Bag then it would be fun for all. |
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KandC Racing
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2009 : 18:14:38
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Hey Guys.... Just my 2 cents from an outsider looking in:
1. In my honest opinon it doesnt pay to accuse drivers of 'cheating' especially when you are trying to promote CSR Supercups and want to attract drivers and keep them coming back... everyone looks for an edge... how to bend the rule without breaking it... Im sure you all have gone home from a race and thought about how you could eeek out just a tenth or two more... but thats why you have the rules... to keep things fair. Doesnt the winning car have to go through post race tech or face a penalty? That alone should be enough to prevent cheating.
2. I can understand the concern over "sandbagging"... if the invert number is known prior to the qualifying/ heat race, then a driver COULD use that to his advantage and pick where he wants to end up to place him near the front in the feature. So maybe a number needs to be drawn at random each race to determine the invert... the heat winner pulls it out of a hat or something.
I know Im just an outsider and that I am probably way out of line here... I am not at the track each week and I dont know if there is genuine cheating going on.... All I know is that when I caught you guys at Rockford last year, I witnessed some great racing. You could really tell the difference in the cars... some were good on restarts and would pull away and then some would take several laps to "wind up" and catch the leaders... just really exciting racing! Keep up the great job and be safe out there! |
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supercup18
Forum Admin
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Posted - 08/08/2009 : 07:06:23
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Thanks for your input K&C
The good news is that I beleive our series has done well in the department of keeping things fair and the reult has been just what you stated.."Great Racing!".
Not one car has been disqualified this season for not passing tech.
So my hats off to all of our drivers new and old for a great season.
Jeff Myers
Supercupracing.com
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