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supercup18
Forum Admin
253 Posts |
 Posted - 02/14/2009 : 11:52:45
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This morning I sent out a email regarding the status of our current race date schedule. In order to complete a 15 race date schedule we will need to shedule additional dates at Grundy County Speedway with the GCK karting series. Some like the idea and some do not so please give me your input regarding this situation. I am heading out of town today but will have access to email. I Must finish the schedule Tuesday when I return. Your input will be critical in my final decisions for scheduling race dates.
Thanks and if it is very important give me a call at 630-333-8682 if not I will be enjoying 80 degrees in the water park in the Dells.
Jeff Myers
Supercupracing.com
630-333-8682
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Lawman7
New Member
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2009 : 13:19:35
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Sorry, I did not receive your email. In regards to GCK races, I would prefer to avoid those if possible. Thanks
Some ol' state trooper chased me thirty-nine times, but never came close......Curtis Turner
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 02/14/2009 : 13:35:31
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I didnt get the email either. But Jeff and I talked yesterday and Ill voice some of my opinions on here too.
I think with the bad economy and tight budgets, we dont need to get 15 races, especially by having to add New Paris and GCK races. Id rather have 10-12 local races, with higher car counts, then to race against 8 cars 15 times. Even the Lawmen cant make 15 races on our budget,so I imagine we're not alone.
I know Jeff is in a tricky spot and cant please everyone. He's doing the best he can, but I say remove one Indiana race, remove one GCK race, and remove one DRP race, then we're all equal no matter where in the Il/WI/IN area you live in. 12 races with 2 extra race dates is plenty for this season.
My big question is if the adult division has 8 cars at a DRP race or a Rockford race, why would they want to have us back next year? If you were a spectator why would you want to buy a Supercup to race against 8 guys? But if we have less races, I think our car counts might be higher and ensure our 2010 season!
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 08:41:03
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Cmon guys, whatever your opinions of the schedule, please speak up or decisions will be based on only a few.
Just one quick point. One of my bones of contention is Indiana races. I know some like them and some do not. But just a little statistic: Last year there were 0 adult division drivers from IN/MI. There were 5 Jr. Division drivers in IN/MI, but only 2 that ran more than a couple races.
I dont mind making the occasional trip out there. Even the trips up to the Dells can be long, but at least you can bring the family up there. Im just thinking anymore than 2 races in Indiana is pushing it for the majority of CSR drivers. If I'm wrong, please speak up, I dont want to speak for you if your opinions differ!
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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hoth22
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 10:14:32
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| I also did not receive an email regarding the schedule. In previous years I could not get enough race dates but with everything going on this year I would not be opposed to reducing the schedule by one or two races. More importantly April 19th??? Hey Ken does Hoosier make a snow tire? Got to go I'm going online to see if I can find a down firesuit. |
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supercup18
Forum Admin
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 10:47:37
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I am out of town & can not check my regular computer. By the input from you three no one probably got the email. Maybe I did not attach the series list which means only Dave Kast would have gotten it. I will resend it Tuesday morning when I return. I do not have my full email list in my laptop.
Jeff Myers
Supercupracing.com
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 10:56:37
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| I also didn't receive the email that was sent out. I think we have earned the right to race on Saturday nights in the big show and going back to race on Sundays with GCK, in my opinion would be a step backwards. Running at Grundy, Rockford, Madison or the Dells with the ASA is what we should be doing to help our racers attract more sponsorships for their teams along with getting the most exposure for their current sponsors. |
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PuddyKat
Starting Member
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 11:10:20
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| I don't know enough about Grundy to make any comments on racing there, but I'd keep the Dells races because they seem to work with us. As far as Plymouth goes, if you want to drop races from there, I'd have no problem with that. Looking at the schedule, we have 4 races in August, I'd drop the 8/1 race. Indiana doesn't like our team anyway. :) |
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 12:12:53
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Also on 4/19/09, Rockford Speedway has their big race day. I believe both Cody Lipstreuer and Davey Pennel will be racing that in their respective divisions. I already committed to helping Cody, so I will not be attending that GCK race. I believe there are a few others I've heard from doing the same.
I do agree that if were going to run a GCK race, early in the season is good because the track has lots of room to run, in case your car isnt up to spec you can get some good practice in; better spinning there than at Rockford or DRP.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 13:08:52
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For those of you who did not get it here it is:
Hello everyone,
I received a couple calls and emails yesterday regarding the newly posted
schedule. Let me explain the reasoning behind the schedule and then I
will ask for some input.
Madison along with many other tracks are suffering in this economy like
many of us and are forced to implement cut backs. We will not be racing
at Madison this year for several reasons. #1 time for their show, #2 cut
backs in financing and #3 no improvements to the inside wall. The Bandos
along with us and several other divisions have been cut from the program.
Another factor in scheduling difficulties was the late turnover in
leadership. In the past I had already been working on tracks and
schedules by August. With the elections not becoming final until
November it was much more difficult to get things rolling.
New Paris Speedway has made changes with their ownership and what we
experienced back in 07 should not be an issue in 09. Many drivers
enjoyed the track and I myself and others look forward to returning. We
all hope the track is reformed so we can continue to race there in the
future.
Some questions I received were regarding the extra dates at Grundy with
the kart division. I will explain the details behind this situation and
then ask for a series vote. My original plan was to schedule 1 date with
GCK and then utilize two of there dates as rain dates. Many were
concerned with only 15 race dates and then having the possibility of
several being rained out. We have gone over the years from 20 down to
18(Good Number!) down to 15 races and much of this is due to the economy
and where are drivers are located. I have added extra dates at Grundy
this year for several reasons. #1 goes back to my previous statement of
lack of track commitment from a late start approaching tracks for dates.
#2 With a drop in car count we need to focus a little extra attention on
where are driver pool comes from specifically in the kids division. Most
come from the karting divisions. #3 we need to finish the schedule so we
can start producing literature for our upcoming shows and events.
Originally I had scheduled 1 official date at Grundy (Other then the ASA
Race) on July 5th. In order to get a earlier start on the season I added
April 19th. With the loss of the Madison race I then filled a large gap
in our schedule in June by adding the New Paris race on June 27th. With
Madison first changing their date from the 19 of Sept to the 26th that
canceled GCK for a rain date but then the loss of Madison put that race
right back into position again My only option to bring the race count
back to 15 this late in the season was to either add a date at the Dells,
Plymouth or GCK. I could not get any more dates from Rockford (Already
tried and managed to get the one added on Aug 29th.). We can only race
at Illiana or Madison on Friday nights and in this economy I skipped that
for this year. If things are looking better next year we may add some of
those dates. I have heard the fall out in both directions. I am not
racing three races in WI. or I am not racing three races in IN.. The
fact is that we do not have a lot of choices this year and although I
would love to make everyone happy from the ones asking for yet even a
smaller schedule to those wanting more races it is not possible to
appease everyone and I must do the best with what I have to work with and
the time limitations attached.
That is why I made the final race of the season back at Grundy on
Saturday the 26th and intend on adding the final rain date on September
6th. This would make the amount of dates with Grundy a total of 3 with
GCK. GCK's drivers fees are more but the pit passes for non drivers are
less. The series will see what sort of income we bring in and will try
to pay our drivers at the GCK dates if funding is available. Our goal is
to race in front of the fans but once again I send you back to the
previous paragraphs explaining our situation.
So what I am asking from our drivers is to send me your input regarding
the extra dates at Grundy with GCK. Our two choices are lower the amount
of races or keep the GCK dates. We are not in the position of cancelling
dates with regular tracks. This effects our future relationships. So for
those that can not make the races at certain tracks the series will work
together to tag team and work together to help you get there if you'd
like.
Please send your input ASAP
Thanks,
Jeff
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holeinone4
Administrator
Armenia
53 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 17:53:02
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My thoughts have not changed since I began racing 3 years ago, give me as many races as possible. I didn't buy my car to race it 12 times a year. I also don't care where we race or with whom we race. The way to grow this series is to get it out in front of as many people as possible, including karts. I believe they are our biggest pond to fish from. We have snagged some pretty awsome drivers from the karting group, and will continue to do so, as long as we can offer a great upgrade to them. Racing with the karts is most definitely not a step backwards as long as we still have the rest of our schedule in the big show, and as our base, and if that means we have to travel to the tracks that will have us, so be it.
Our new board has implemented some new fund raising tools. The first being a raffle with a lot of really awesome prizes, if all the drivers band together as a unit, and sell these tickets, we as a series will have a lot to look forward to.
I would also like the names of these other series that allow the drivers to dictate the schedule. Oh I'm busy that weekend we need to change that date, PLEASE.
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Lawman9
Average Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 18:08:52
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I would also like the names of these other series that allow the drivers to dictate the schedule. Oh I'm busy that weekend we need to change that date, PLEASE.
Im just responding to what Jeff asked: our opinions on the schedule.
No ones dictating, were all just offering opinions. In my opinion not everyone can afford 15 races scattered across the midwest, in my opinion several drivers wont be at the first race, in my opinion many drivers dont like too many Indiana races, in my opinion not everyone is excited about GCK races. I know its hard to please everyone, but all i can offer is my opinion, no dictation. And I respect others opinions as well. I hope more guys offer their opinion as well, as Jeff asked.
Once the schedule is out, we'll be at the races we can and hope to have fun like we always do.
"It's a never ending battle of making your cars better and also trying to be better yourself."
-Dale Earnhardt
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davidkast
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2009 : 22:24:23
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| We would like to hear from everyone on this matter, and yes everyones opioion counts so please voice your opinion this seris is for everyone. |
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fordguy
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/16/2009 : 06:07:06
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I myself agree with Steve. I am new to the series and did not get a chance to come out and race last year but this year i will be running the whole season. I am new to mincup racing and would like as much seat time as possible. I do see the other drivers points of money, time ect. I am just excited to get to racing.
Thanks for all the info you guys have given me especially Ken and Jeff.
Jeff i will be contacting you soon about some rockford track rental!!
This appears to be a great group of guys with alot of fun times ahead for me and my family.
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supercup18
Forum Admin
253 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2009 : 08:45:43
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Thank you for every ones input.
I am still out of town but will finish things up tomorrow morning. I beleive my letter which no one got (I goofed!) that is posted here explains many of the situations I am dealing with. Our core group of drivers live in IL. and I was asked many times to have a few less races out of state this year. That has been accomplished. Last year we had 9 total out of IL. this year we are down to 6.
I will address some of the other thoughts and concerns brought up in this post later tonight or tomorrow morning.
Thanks again for all of your input.
Jeff
Jeff Myers
Supercupracing.com
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kbrown
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 02/16/2009 : 10:46:11
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Everyone is hurting with the way the economy is right now. We all need to make some sort of cutbacks to continue to survive. I for one would like to not cut back on the race schedule. My son is still learning on how to drive a Mini Cup Car and he needs all the seat time he can get. I think we need to run races with GCK in order to build up our series. Most, if not all of the JRs’ have come from Karting and one day will hopefully move up and grow the adult series as well. I know a lot of the adults feel we do not need to run many races with GCK and would rather be under the lights with the big cars but if we want this series to continue to grow then I think it is necessary to do so. Everyone is not going to be able to make it out to all of the races for one reason or another. I think leave the schedule the way it is and you should make it out to what races you can.
On another note, WE as a Series need to pull together and stop the bickering that went on last year. By the looks of some of these posts it is already starting. I for one do not what to be any part of that! Anyone can read these posts and it does not make our series look very professional when we are going back and forth bickering! We may not all like one another on a personal basis but we need to get along when we are out at the tracks in front of the fans and act like a professional series. We are all grown adults and we need to act like it. This is supposed to be fun so let’s keep it that way.
Thanks
Kevin Brown
JR. Super Cups Director
www.TylerBrownRacing.com
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